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Grapevine Gone?
posted by phantom on Thursday April 14, @02:34PM
from the opinions-are-like-assholes-everyone-has-their-own dept.
News I went to Grapevine Magazine’s web site last week to find a message posted saying, “there will be no more Grapevine Magazine.” I haven’t heard anything from DazzaBoy so I didn’t know what the hell the problem was till last night when I found a submission to this site from some guy named Pazza. So, I have a clue what the problem is now.

The submission sent last night at around 10:00pm CST, came a little after I sent an email to DazzaBoy at Grapevine magazine (which later bounced back to me) to determine what the problems were over there. At face value this submission seemed to be an explanation as to what transpired over at Grapevine to make them want to shutdown. As it turns out it was from a guy named “Pazza” who claims to be the original editor of the original Grapevine magazine.

He claims that the current incarnation of Grapevine was created with no support of the original team members of Grapevine Magazine. That it used the Grapevine name, the LSD name, and parodies of the original editors names to try and gain the popularity of the once legendary Grapevine Magazine in the UK Scene.

He had my attention right up until the point of saying, “The original Grapevine died because the world had changed, the Internet had become the WWW and disk magazines had became totally pointless, newsgroup access is available to all that want it, any clown can surf to a WWW page. So there was no longer a need for a diskmag from the days 2400 modems where still expensive, and 14400 modem users were still elite.”

I am so sick and tired of hearing this line of reasoning from people that use the Internet to blame the Internet for the collapse of a software company, BBS, or magazine group. Why is it always the buyers, users, or readers that give up on your product? Could it be possibly, you gave up on them? Perhaps it is not the world that changed, but your group of people who failed to find a way to exploit this change. Why should another group of people be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail for wanting to pick up a legacy where it left off with new technology. Ya know I submitted stories that are offline and gone now. What about my body of work, why is it all about you guys and your “Legendary status in Amiga UK.” Oh captain my captain… This old status of yours means nothing to me, but then again I don’t live in the UK. All I know is the work that was put into this Grapevine now. I liked it; my BBS users and web site readers enjoyed it.

Anyhow, to finish off my point here I would like to say that you “old skoolers” gave it up and you quit. The memory of your greatness seems to lie only with in your own ranks. So I fail to see how anyone is “taking you down with them.”

On that note, since I can’t get a hold of DazzaBoy. Since I am sure this “elite group of old skoolers” have shamed him into committing suicide over your attacks, if they are anything like what you sent to this site. I hope that he would consider an offer to restart an old magazine of mine. Maybe even a new project with a new name and mission statement. I didn’t want to remove any Grapevine content from this site, but I had to since all the links were broken. Hope to hear from you DazzaBoy.

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